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发表于 2010-12-17 12:14 | 显示全部楼层
如此说来,巴顿将军也算是【美国刀友】的骄傲了
液体金属 发表于 2010-12-17 02:56


美国刀友素质可高了,怎么会为“恶意仿制”而骄傲呢???{:4_138:}
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    发表于 2010-12-17 12:16 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.jyyes.cn/

    小时候巨喜欢巴顿和隆美尔。我始终认为,要不是补给不足。隆美尔就不会输给蒙哥马利那个GAY
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    本帖最后由 无双影 于 2010-12-17 13:04 编辑

    楼上V5,从小就喜欢隆美尔,关于他的著作看了很多!真正的牛人!
    对于巴顿,我一直认为他和许世友是一个模子的!
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    本帖最后由 冷兵器时代左轮 于 2010-12-17 14:00 编辑

    曾经看过巴顿的传记—— 《热血豪胆:巴顿》

    关于他的性格,他的老上司是这样形容的:“在战争年代,可以把他放出来去玩命,如果在和平时期,必须用厚牛皮绳把他像斗牛犬一样拴住,否则天知道他会干出什么来!”

    “老头儿”在外面牛叉轰轰,回到家里在老婆面前像只小绵羊。



    巴顿的履历上也有污点:  当年一战结束,美国退役军人要求ZF提高福利待遇,谈崩了,游行。巴顿曾参与ZY游行军人的行动——— 向一群手无寸铁的退役军人挥舞马刀,被砍的退役军人当中甚至还有他当年忠实的部下。



    以上只是知道的一点点,无意冒犯任何人

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    发表于 2010-12-17 14:03 | 显示全部楼层
    20# yp19881
    这就是巴顿剑了。巴顿本人是击剑高手,设计这款军刀的原意就是想以法式直剑代替英式军刀。1918年以前出产的这款军刀大多数经过了一战的洗礼,发挥了实战价值。1927后出产的就没这么好运了,二战间美军几乎用不上骑兵,更不用说这把骑兵刀,这些军刀只能沦为仪仗品或收藏品。{:4_129:}

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    发表于 2010-12-17 14:46 | 显示全部楼层
    典型的因为领导不喜欢没有挂上五颗星....

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    发表于 2010-12-17 14:46 | 显示全部楼层
    典型的因为领导不喜欢没有挂上五颗星....
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2010-12-17 15:19 | 显示全部楼层
    楼上V5,从小就喜欢隆美尔,关于他的著作看了很多!真正的牛人!
    对于巴顿,我一直认为他和许世友是一个模子的!
    无双影 发表于 2010-12-17 13:02


    许世友和巴顿性格或许有点类似。但军事素养不能同日而语。
    二战公认的军事素养集大成者还是德国的那帮将军。

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    发表于 2010-12-17 15:27 | 显示全部楼层
     "Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American."
      
      The General paused and looked over the crowd. "You are not all going to die," he said slowly. "Only two percent of you right here today would die in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all men. Yes, every man is scared in his first battle. If he says he's not, he's a liar. Some men are cowards but they fight the same as the brave men or they get the hell slammed out of them watching men fight who are just as scared as they are. The real hero is the man who fights even though he is scared. Some men get over their fright in a minute under fire. For some, it takes an hour. For some, it takes days. But a real man will never let his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood. Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best and it removes all that is base. Americans pride themselves on being He Men and they ARE He Men. Remember that the enemy is just as frightened as you are, and probably more so. They are not supermen."
      
      "All through your Army careers, you men have bitched about what you call "chicken shit drilling". That, like everything else in this Army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is alertness. Alertness must be bred into every soldier. I don't give a fuck for a man who's not always on his toes. You men are veterans or you wouldn't be here. You are ready for what's to come. A man must be alert at all times if he expects to stay alive. If you're not alert, sometime, a German son-of-an-asshole-bitch is going to sneak up behind you and beat you to death with a sockful of shit!" The men roared in agreement.
      
      Patton's grim expression did not change. "There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily", he roared into the microphone, "All because one man went to sleep on the job". He paused and the men grew silent. "But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did". The General clutched the microphone tightly, his jaw out-thrust, and he continued, "An Army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horse shit. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about fucking!"
      
      The men slapped their legs and rolled in glee. This was Patton as the men had imagined him to be, and in rare form, too. He hadn't let them down. He was all that he was cracked up to be, and more. He had IT!
      
      "We have the finest food, the finest equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world", Patton bellowed. He lowered his head and shook it pensively. Suddenly he snapped erect, faced the men belligerently and thundered, "Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-bitches we're going up against. By God, I do". The men clapped and howled delightedly. There would be many a barracks tale about the "Old Man's" choice phrases. They would become part and parcel of Third Army's history and they would become the bible of their slang.
      
      "My men don't surrender", Patton continued, "I don't want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back. That's not just bull shit either. The kind of man that I want in my command is just like the lieutenant in Libya, who, with a Luger against his chest, jerked off his helmet, swept the gun aside with one hand, and busted the hell out of the Kraut with his helmet. Then he jumped on the gun and went out and killed another German before they knew what the hell was coming off. And, all of that time, this man had a bullet through a lung. There was a real man!"
      
      Patton stopped and the crowd waited. He continued more quietly, "All of the real heroes are not storybook combat fighters, either. Every single man in this Army plays a vital role. Don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain. What if every truck driver suddenly decided that he didn't like the whine of those shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into a ditch? The cowardly bastard could say, "Hell, they won't miss me, just one man in thousands". But, what if every man thought that way? Where in the hell would we be now? What would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be like? No, Goddamnit, Americans don't think like that. Every man does his job. Every man serves the whole. Every department, every unit, is important in the vast scheme of this war. The ordnance men are needed to supply the guns and machinery of war to keep us rolling. The Quartermaster is needed to bring up food and clothes because where we are going there isn't a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on K.P. has a job to do, even the one who heats our water to keep us from getting the 'G.I. Shits'."
      
      Patton paused, took a deep breath, and continued, "Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men. One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, "Fixing the wire, Sir". I asked, "Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?" He answered, "Yes Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed". I asked, "Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?" And he answered, "No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!" Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds. And you should have seen those trucks on the rode to Tunisia. Those drivers were magnificent. All day and all night they rolled over those son-of-a-bitching roads, never stopping, never faltering from their course, with shells bursting all around them all of the time. We got through on good old American guts. Many of those men drove for over forty consecutive hours. These men weren't combat men, but they were soldiers with a job to do. They did it, and in one hell of a way they did it. They were part of a team. Without team effort, without them, the fight would have been lost. All of the links in the chain pulled together and the chain became unbreakable."

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    发表于 2010-12-17 15:28 | 显示全部楼层
      
      The General paused and stared challengingly over the silent ocean of men. One could have heard a pin drop anywhere on that vast hillside. The only sound was the stirring of the breeze in the leaves of the bordering trees and the busy chirping of the birds in the branches of the trees at the General's left.
      
      "Don't forget," Patton barked, "you men don't know that I'm here. No mention of that fact is to be made in any letters. The world is not supposed to know what the hell happened to me. I'm not supposed to be commanding this Army. I'm not even supposed to be here in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the Goddamned Germans. Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, 'Jesus Christ, it's the Goddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-fucking-bitch Patton'."
      
      "We want to get the hell over there", Patton continued, "The quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit."
      
      The men roared approval and cheered delightedly. This statement had real significance behind it. Much more than met the eye and the men instinctively sensed the fact. They knew that they themselves were going to play a very great part in the ** of world history. They were being told as much right now. Deep sincerity and seriousness lay behind the General's colorful words. The men knew and understood it. They loved the way he put it, too, as only he could.
      
      Patton continued quietly, "Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin", he yelled, "I am personally going to shoot that ** hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!"
      
      "When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!"
      
      "I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living shit out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like shit through a tin horn!"
      
      "From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that."
      
      The General paused. His eagle like eyes swept over the hillside. He said with pride, "There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Georgie Patton!"

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    发表于 2010-12-17 15:28 | 显示全部楼层
    来自伟大的互联网,这应该就是楼主要的原文吧?

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    发表于 2010-12-17 15:32 | 显示全部楼层
    戈林同志作为同盟国卧底为法西斯的覆灭作出了巨大的贡献!
    他为盟军带来的作用几乎抵消了隆美尔+古德里安+邓尼茨!
    (纯Y,勿怪)

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    发表于 2010-12-17 15:40 | 显示全部楼层
    许世友?是说许和尚?文盲老粗外加以自己粗鄙为荣的家伙,看看对越许和尚打得什么仗吧。对比下另一个战略方向就明白了。巴顿虽然粗鲁,但是军事素养、文化素养是许和尚望尘莫及的。

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    发表于 2010-12-17 15:57 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 J.Christ 于 2010-12-17 16:07 编辑
      
      The General paused and stared challengingly over the silent ocean of men. One could have heard a pin drop anywhere on that vast hillside. The only sound was the stirring of the breeze in the ...
    导演 发表于 2010-12-17 15:28


    真相出现了。这大概,也许,可能,应该就是约翰·鲍伦的场记版本了。1945年3月5日法国境内一个名叫爱内瑞(Ennery )的小镇,第65师已得到命令在数日内对德军“齐格菲”防线发起进攻,巴顿做的战前训话。

    补上20楼缺少的结语的翻译版(转自百度):
         (上接“在路易斯安那铲粪。。。)
         你们所在的师是美国自第一次世界大战以来最优秀的师,对此我深信不疑,因为我也是这个师的一员。你们有最好的装备、最优秀的士兵、最先进的战术,但你们必须牢记我刚才对你们说的话。射击,不断地射击。进攻,坚决果断地进攻。照顾好自己。绝不相信德国佬。
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

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    看来还真上对图了,网络上找来的!
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    那部电影拍的非常好!
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    发表于 2010-12-17 23:54 | 显示全部楼层
    液体知道沙利文兄弟号驱逐舰的来历吗?

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     楼主| 发表于 2010-12-18 12:07 | 显示全部楼层
    31# 导演



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     楼主| 发表于 2010-12-18 12:16 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.hseonly.cn/

    液体知道沙利文兄弟号驱逐舰的来历吗?
    冷兵器时代左轮 发表于 2010-12-17 23:54



    苏利文五兄弟与那艘传奇战舰的故事,焉能不知
    左轮应该单独开帖
    讲讲那个故事
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    发表于 2010-12-18 12:37 | 显示全部楼层
    许世友?是说许和尚?文盲老粗外加以自己粗鄙为荣的家伙,看看对越许和尚打得什么仗吧。对比下另一个战略方向就明白了。巴顿虽然粗鲁,但是军事素养、文化素养是许和尚望尘莫及的。
    yqw8422 发表于 2010-12-17 15:40
    越战出现的问题不能全怪老许,要看综合原因,从WG开始一直到那那段时间军队的政治学习比军事训练比重还要高,军队素质不高谈别的就没有任何用处!反观越南长期处于战乱之中,军队素质在当时我决的是咱们附近几个国家里面是排的上号的!另外文盲老粗不能等同于不会打仗,无数的历史人物都可以证明这点。
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