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    发表于 2007-3-2 20:21 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
    也不知是在哪找到的,非常有趣如涉及版权,板块问题,请版主随意处理--我看了8成懂,关键是这个
    ,对了,我水平有限就不班门弄斧了,看这个
    Ratings Scale:
    1=Poor 2=Fair 3=Average 4=Good 5=Excellent

                      KaBar   Nighthawk     SOG 2000     MPK   ATAK2   DSU2

    Cutting rope         1         3               3             3     4         5
    Cutting cable       3         1               3             4     5         5
    Cutting webbing     5         3               5             4     5         5
    Cutting PVC hose   4         1               4             4     5         5
    Digging in pine       2         4               2             5     5         5
    Chopping 2x4's       1       1               2             4     5         5
    Lateral blade strength 3     1               4             5     5         5
    -with 140 lbs       pass   pass           pass           pass   pass   pass
    -with 225 lbs       fail     fail             fail           pass   pass   pass
    Solvent immersion     2       1               5             4       5         5
    Handle flame test     2       1               5             4       5         5

    原文如下
    The Ground Zero Knife Trials

    The Ground Zero Knife Trials
    Report by Hilton Yam

        The knife trials held by the Naval Special Warfare Group One in
    April of 1992 include a variety of important tests that typify the tasks
    that a good field/combat knife should be able to accomplish. We set out
    to duplicate the trials, to the best of our limited resources, to better
    assess the performance of some of the combat knives available today.
    The tests were conducted in as scientific a manner as possible, with the
    testing protocol and results fully repeatable for anyone who wishes to
    attempt them.

    Our knife test will include:
    5 cuts each on ten kinds of rope
        550 paracord
        3/8" braided poly rope
        1/2" twisted poly rope
        1/4" cotton sash cord
        5/16" braided poly rope
        5/8" nylon dock line
        3/8" manila rope
        1/2" climbing rope
        4 sections of bundled 3/8" manila rope (1.5" total thickness)
        cotton mop of 4" diameter (similar composition to fast rope)

    5 cuts on 1/2" shielded cable
    2 cuts on 1.25" nylon webbing
    1 cut on G.I. canvas web belt
    2 cuts on nylon reinforced PVC hose (similar in composition to Zodiac
    material)
    digging a 4" hole through 1" pine
    chopping through two 2"x4"s

    the knives were lashed between two beams halfway up their blades so that
    a man could chin up on it

    immersion in lacquer thinner for 15 min.
    48 hour immersion in gasoline

    a flame test on the grip

    The knives tested:
    Mad Dog ATAK2 (tm)
    Mad Dog DSU2 (tm)
    Mission Knives MPK - current SEAL issue nonmagnetic dive knife
    SOG SEAL 2000 - current SEAL issue knife
    Buck Nighthawk - a production version of the knives originally entered
    in the SEAL trials
    KaBar - the traditional field knife, included for comparison

    Initial impressions of the production knives (before the tests):
    Mission Knives MPK
    This titanium knife looks superficially like the Mad Dog ATAK family
    knives. Major differences include the lack of forward blade rake, which
    would serve to enhance edge and point presentation (if present) and
    handle design. The MPK basically features a straight spine/edge
    presentation. The handle was reasonably comfortable, but lacked the
    single finger index (groove) that makes snap cuts easy and positive.
    The handle cross section felt a little too square for our liking. The
    lanyard hole was only just large enough to accommodate 550 cord. As far
    as fit and finish, the corners of spine were quite sharp, and various
    machine marks were visible at the ricasso area - not what we expect for
    a knife that retails at about $300. The sheath, while quiet in
    deployment and resheathing, featured a rubber retention loop that was
    extremely difficult to get over the handle in a hurry. Retention
    without secondary devices was adequate. Overall, the knife had the best
    feel of the four production knives tested.

    Buck Nighthawk
    The Alcryn inserts in the Zytel handle of this knife feel slimy and
    lumpy. The subtle finger swells are not placed where they might connect
    with one's fingers. The handle lacks much of an index in the hand. The
    blade profile is very thick, and does not look like it will excel at any
    delicate cutting work. The original Buck entrant to the SEAL trials was
    154CM, but the production knives are only 425M (what do you want for
    $36.95?). We would have gladly paid more for the knife if it would have
    come with a sturdier sheath. It is flimsy and not worthy of field use.

    SOG SEAL 2000
    Possibly the worst feeling of the 4 production knives. The handle
    profile is almost completely square! Tell me where on your hand do you
    have a square surface? The checkering is a bit much, and we anticipate
    it will be very abrasive to the user. The guards amount to nothing more
    than "speed bumps" for your hand as they rush over them toward the blade
    edge. Balance is poor, leaning towards blade heavy without the
    appropriate index points in the handle to effect a positive grip. On
    the bright side, the blade came with a bustin' sharp edge...we'll have
    to see how long it holds that edge. The tip is needle sharp, and looks
    ready to snap off with light prying. The sheath is a horrible
    contraption with many leather gizmos and spacers. Isn't the Cordura
    supposed to be a water resistant solution to leather? Then why pair
    ridiculously thin layers of it up with leather (which will rot in
    water)?

    KaBar
    The classic. The oval profile handle feels ok in the hand, though it
    too lacks any real index points. For the price, this old classic still
    rises to the challenge - on a budget. The KaBar's primary weaknesses
    include the fragile tip and relatively thin blade. Sheath is nice
    quality leather and cosmetically pleasing. We are not expecting this
    knife to succeed in the trials, but rather to serve as a basis of
    comparison.
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    Ratings Scale:
    1=Poor 2=Fair 3=Average 4=Good 5=Excellent

                      KaBar   Nighthawk     SOG 2000     MPK   ATAK2   DSU2

    Cutting rope         1         3               3             3     4         5
    Cutting cable       3         1               3             4     5         5
    Cutting webbing     5         3               5             4     5         5
    Cutting PVC hose   4         1               4             4     5         5
    Digging in pine       2         4               2             5     5         5
    Chopping 2x4's       1       1               2             4     5         5
    Lateral blade strength 3     1               4             5     5         5
    -with 140 lbs       pass   pass           pass           pass   pass   pass
    -with 225 lbs       fail     fail             fail           pass   pass   pass
    Solvent immersion     2       1               5             4       5         5
    Handle flame test     2       1               5             4       5         5

    Cutting Rope:
    On partially serrated blades, cuts were initially performed using only
    the plain portion of the blade. Any partial serrations were employed
    only if the primary edge failed. Of the various types of rope, the
    manila and some braided poly rope with a hardened outer layer were the
    toughest for all the plain edged knives. The presence of serrations on
    the SOG, MPK, ATAK2 vastly improved their performance on these ropes.
    The fully serrated DSU2 was able to effortlessly cut all the types of
    rope, vastly outperforming all the other knives. The Buck lost its
    aggressive edge after 4 sets of rope cuts (total of only 20 cuts).

    Cutting Cable:
    The Buck was the only knife that failed to cut the cable, bouncing off
    the shielding with only minor penetration. The SOG's poor ergonomics
    made chopping relatively difficult. The MPK was a little light for
    chopping, but still penetrated the cable adequately.

    Cutting Webbing:
    All the knives performed without incident. The edge retention was
    evident on the nylon webbing cuts, as the duller knives left frayed
    edges on the cuts. When we got to the DSU2, the canvas web belt was
    reduced to a length of double thickness near the buckle. We were able
    to cut cleanly through BOTH layers of the belt as easily as cutting ONE
    layer with the other knives.

    Cutting PVC hose:
    The Buck was the only knife that failed to cut through the hose.

    Digging through pine board:
    In the reverse grip, the cross guard of the KaBar dug painfully into the
    user's hand, making this task rather fatiguing. The KaBar sustained
    minor tip damage. The Buck actually performed well in this task, its
    thick blade penetrating the pine rather easily. The SOG was quite a
    nightmare in this test, as the guards did little to prevent the user's
    hand from sliding down onto the blade during heavy digging. Minor tip
    damage was also seen on the SOG. The MPK blade visibly flexed during
    the prying and digging, but returned to true each time. The knife
    sustained very minor tip damage. Neither Mad Dog model sustained any
    damage during this test.

    Chopping of 2x4's:
    The KaBar was an extremely poor chopper. The smooth oval handle allowed
    the blade to rotate in the user's hand, presenting the side of the
    blade as we chopped. The handle also tended to slip out of the hand,
    leaving the user grasping the knife only by the pommel cap. The Buck
    was beyond miserable, as it had lost any semblance of an edge with which
    to cut the wood. The SOG blade was reasonably aggressive on the wood,
    but lost its hair popping edge as the cutting progressed. The square
    handle profile and sharp checkering wore painfully into the user's thumb
    after only limited chopping. The MPK's ergonomics made it more
    comfortable than the first 3 knives, even though it was too light to do
    serious damage with each stroke. It also experienced a detectable loss
    of edge as the chopping progressed. The ATAK2 was the most aggressive
    chopper of the lot, removing wood easily even from the areas burnished
    by previous blade impacts. We considered this a good indicator of blade
    edge efficiency, as most of the other blades were not able to chip wood
    as quickly from the burnished regions. The DSU2 also turned in a good
    performance in the chopping, with the teeth undamaged by the repeated
    impacts.

    Lateral strength (chinups):
    Each blade was tested by a 140 lb and a 225 lb individual. All blades
    were able to support 140 lbs. The KaBar and MPK blades flexed
    noticeably with the 140 lb load. After only one chin up with 225 lbs,
    the KaBar bent about 30 degrees at the tang/blade shoulder junction.
    That's what happens when you don't harden the tang. The Buck blade
    snapped about 2 inches back from the tip with 225 lbs on it. The SOG
    blade bent at about 5-10 degrees 2.5" inches back from the tip with 225
    lbs. It would still have been serviceable in this condition. The MPK
    flexed rather severely with the 225 lbs load, but returned immediately
    to true. The Mad Dog blades flexed moderately under the 225 lb load and
    returned to true without any damage. The DSU2 suffered a mishap in
    which the knife slipped out of the apparatus during the 225 lb tester's
    final chinup. This resulted in the knife sliding out and momentarily
    supporting 225 lbs on the last 1/4" of its tip. The tip bent about 5
    degrees, but was readily able to be straightened out in a vise. We do
    not consider this a failure, as the knife was not permanently damaged
    from this rather extreme abuse.

    Solvent immersion:
    All the handle materials and blade finishes survived the prolonged
    immersion in solvents. The KaBar's leather ring handle was the most
    absorbent of the knives tested. The Kevlar fibers used to reinforce the
    MPK's Hytrel handle absorbed some solvent, leaving the knife with a
    strong lingering odor of gasoline. The Zytel and glass epoxy composite
    handles did not absorb any solvent and were totally undamaged.

    Flame test:
    Each knife was subjected to a flame test immediately following each
    immersion in solvent. Each knife was ignited and allowed to burn until
    it extinguished on its own. The KaBar's absorption of solvent caused
    increased flammability, especially with the gasoline. The knife burned
    for several minutes until the gasoline was expended, leaving the leather
    handle split and charred. The Buck's Alcryn inserts proved to be
    EXTREMELY flammable, burning fiercely long after the solvent had been
    exhausted. The Alcryn burned so completely that the handle inserts were
    almost completely destroyed, leaving very little of the handle intact.
    The SOG's Zytel handle was very flame resistant, barely igniting when
    covered in gasoline. No damage was sustained. The MPK's Kevlar
    reinforced Hytrel absorbed the solvents to a limited degree and burned
    briefly, causing limited damage to the area of the handle near the
    drilled lanyard hole (this area has exposed Kevlar fibers, which are
    flammable). With their glass/epoxy composite handles, both the ATAK2
    and DSU2 were completely unaffected by the flame tests.
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    发表于 2007-3-2 20:32 | 显示全部楼层
    天书?!!

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    发表于 2007-3-2 20:56 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.klmding.cn/

    dsu2
    是哪个牌子的刀。。。
    孤陋寡闻
    请赐教阿。。。
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    http://www.hotmir.cn/

    原帖由 库库 于 2007-3-2 20:56 发表
    dsu2
    是哪个牌子的刀。。。
    孤陋寡闻
    请赐教阿。。。

    好像是maddog的一款,我回去查下,记忆错了望指正
    上海牛仔 该用户已被删除
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    发表于 2007-3-2 22:17 | 显示全部楼层
    原帖由 库库 于 2007-3-2 20:56 发表
    dsu2
    是哪个牌子的刀。。。
    孤陋寡闻
    请赐教阿。。。

    是把全齿的
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     楼主| 发表于 2007-3-3 09:18 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.heibor.com.cn/

    对,dsu2是atak全齿的版本

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    发表于 2007-3-3 09:50 | 显示全部楼层
    看的是一头大汗~~~

    楼主给稍微翻译翻译吧!
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

    发表于 2007-3-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
    大意是一个刀具的测试,是吧
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2007-3-3 10:46 | 显示全部楼层
    俺看不懂~
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2007-3-3 10:46 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.klmding.cn/

    鸟文认识我,我不认识它呀

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    发表于 2007-3-3 11:33 | 显示全部楼层
    老大麻烦翻译一下好不好啊?你这就按个复制再按张贴.有点敷衍吧?
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2007-3-8 11:14 | 显示全部楼层
    SOG 2000     还挺牛的
    看来我的选择不错
    大部分文章可以看懂
    翻译出来还是难点
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    我的PAB

    表现我非常满意。
    PAB.jpg
    PAB2.jpg
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2007-3-8 11:40 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.zdxz.com.cn/

    PAB是什么刀??
    请赐教

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    发表于 2007-3-8 12:06 | 显示全部楼层
    完全看不懂

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    发表于 2007-3-8 12:25 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.rzdsb.cn/

    这是一篇融字母、数字以及符号等多元化于一身的好文章!

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    发表于 2007-3-8 13:58 | 显示全部楼层
    我英语6级,还是一样看不懂
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2007-3-8 15:16 | 显示全部楼层
    英语六级都看不懂
    不太可能哦
    我都可以看个大概
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