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[定制刀] 说说大理石的定制刀

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    本帖最后由 叨叨催人老 于 2014-4-8 13:09 编辑

    大理石是一家美国百年老厂,位于美国格拉斯通,产品质量口碑甚好,开现代户外刀具之先河,在上世纪末停产,牌子虽然保留,但经与天朝OEM,以后的产品都是Made in China,包括那几款莫名其妙的大马钢材,质量就垃圾了。

    (以下图片引自互联网,英文资料引自bladeforums,谢谢原作者)

    Prior to the late 19th century, outdoorsmen and military personnel did not use knives that were notably different from the knives used by butchers. Blades were relatively thin and the handles were often no more than two wooden slabs riveted to the tang. Serrations appeared on knives in the 19th century for use as a wood saw or fish scaler. Around the turn of the century, Webster L. Marble introduced the modern concept of the "hunting knife." These knives incorporated heavier blades, crossguards, and pommels. They very much resembled miniaturized Bowie knives.

    Founder - Webster L. Marble
    Gladstone, Michigan, United States
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    Marble Safety Axe Company, Gladstone Manufacturing Company,
    rifles, gun sights, axes, hunting knives, and other outdoor accessories\
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    son of Lansing Marble and a grandson of Jason Marble, the latter from Vermont and of English descent.

    Marble loved the outdoors and the vast Upper Peninsula offered innumerable opportunities to hunt, fish, camp and explore the environment. An inventor by nature, he was continually seeking to create useful tools and equipment that would be both practical and durable in the outdoors.

    Marble Arms created the Ideal hunting knife in 1898.
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    以上资料很多人都知道。可能有人不知道的是:在1997--2007年,大理石曾经复兴过十年。这期间的产品仍在格拉斯通制造,产品质量达到了历史最高峰,其中标有“custom”的几款,采用52100钢,质量可与很多订制刀媲美,堪称大理石的精华。

    先来看看最后一个十年期的普通款,刀盒上印有格拉斯特制造,无"custom"标示, 质量却不差。第一把是1998年的:

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    本帖最后由 叨叨催人老 于 2014-4-8 13:10 编辑

    这5把是2001--2006的,也是普版,字体随批次略不同
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    本帖最后由 叨叨催人老 于 2014-4-8 08:00 编辑

    再来看定制版的,刀身有"custom"标志

    这是两把skinner 曲线销魂 上面是乌木柄 下面是鹿角柄
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    本帖最后由 叨叨催人老 于 2014-4-8 12:55 编辑

    其他几把custom 字体略有不同  上面这把是著名的刀型Woodcraft

    Marble's Woodcraft is one of the most instantly recognized knives that was ever made in the entire world. Patent applied for in 1915, W L Marble was quoted: Be it be known that I, Webster L Marble...have invented a new & original Design for a Blade of a new Hunting Knife...that patent was granted to Marble on February 22, 1916...the Woodcrafts success not only in the USA but also around the world became legendary! After the patent ran out in 1930, the Woodcraft became the most copied knife blade pattern by almost every other knife company in the world.
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    下面这把刀型是Canoe :
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    叨叨催人老 发表于 2014-4-8 07:49
    这5把是2001--2006的,普通版

    最右边这把的手柄,跟我最理想的格斗折刀手柄很相近

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    本帖最后由 叨叨催人老 于 2014-4-8 12:39 编辑

    这一款刀型叫做sport   与loveless合作设计 英文介绍:

    Another knife made was the Marbles Sport. This knife pattern came out about 1930,, Marble's made one version of this identical knife with a collaboration with the late Bob LoveLess, it had a drop point blade pattern. In the 1930's, this knife was the Official knife of the Boy Scouts & Girl Scouts of America.

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    这款叫Ideal  大名鼎鼎 英文介绍
    Marble's Ideal was the 1st knife in the Marble's lineup.Some famous people to carry Marble's Ideal knives were Teddy Roosevelt, Peary & Byrd who were the explorers to reach the north & south poles. Charles Lindbergh carried a Marble's Ideal, in the cockpit of the 1st solo Trans-Atlantic flight, now it's on display in the Smithsonian Institution.
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    这一款叫做Expert  英文介绍:
    is the Marbles Corp. longest running pattern than any other of Marbles original designs. This knife started in the Marble's line in 1906. W.L. Marble's intent was to offer a a knife suited to the professional hunter, guides, trapper, that needed a light blade for skinning & dressing, yet with enough strength to handle all the rest of regular outdoor chores.
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    大理石最贵最大的一款刀型Trailmaker
    The Marble's Trailmaker knife is the biggest knife Marble's ever made at 15" OAL. It was the heaviest at over 1 LB, and it was the most expensive knife ever offered in Marble's Corp.

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    本帖最后由 叨叨催人老 于 2014-4-8 10:52 编辑

    大理石刀具对后来的Scagel和Randall有着重要的影响,是这一类刀具的滥觞。

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    这是我最喜欢的量产直刀品牌

    停产以后难找了,残念~~~~~~
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    yeesol 发表于 2014-4-8 11:55
    这是我最喜欢的量产直刀品牌

    停产以后难找了,残念~~~~~~

    盼多介绍关于这个品牌的使用经验 07年以后是彻底没有美国制造了
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    在1997--2007年,大理石曾经复兴过十年。这期间的产品仍在格拉斯通制造,产品质量达到了历史最高峰。


    那个时期,大理石除直刀外,还生产了一些口袋刀。今天就看到一把,看形制蛮好,2002的产品:
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    2001-2002年间的三把大理石口袋 那个时期的产品让人有好感
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    很个性的刀具
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

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    本帖最后由 xxxxx213641 于 2015-2-14 16:11 编辑

    这个牌子的陨落背景是:形制,战术风格的风潮肆虐;刃材,当代最新优质钢材普及应用;手柄,适用性广耐久性强的人造合成材料大规模应用;刀鞘,从难保养的皮鞘向耐久易保养的K鞘和功能较多的尼龙鞘转变;表面,各种性能出众的涂层大规模应用。------这是时代的特征。
    而该厂还在固守传统,才终于淡出人们视野。

    还是不思进取,无法跟上潮流的结果,一如当年的诺基亚。
    反观BUCK,自从和ST等战术刀厂家刀匠设计师合作之后,衍生出完整的适应市场的战术系列,所以渡过难关,继续前行。

    在艺术领域,今人难以超越古人。
    在技术领域,今人轻易超越古人。

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